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Bath Limited · the Welsh edition

Y Marciau Cymraeg.

Twenty-four lines of bath.limited’s Welsh that only a Welsh speaker can settle, each beside its English, with the one question we have about it. Everything else on the site has been checked against TermCymru, Y Termiadur and GPC and stands.

How to answer

In the box under each line, or by number if you print this. “Fine” is a complete answer. If a line should change, write the whole line as you would have it, not just the word, so it goes in exactly as written. Where a question names a term that also appears elsewhere, one ruling covers every place.

The Welsh is the text on the page; the English is what it mirrors. A word in curly braces is a figure the page fills in. The six questions at the end cut across several lines and are worth reading first.

What you type stays in this browser until you press send, at the foot of the sheet, so you can leave and come back; the count there says how far you have got. Send once, or change a line and send again: the newest set is the one that counts. This browser also remembers it has been here: a MARCIAU stamp at the foot of every page on the site brings you back.

The lines

The privacy sheet is a legal document, so it comes first. Then the colophon, the front page, the print edition, the sports drawings, and three lines that are written but not yet shown.

1 Preifatrwydd · Yr hyn nad yw’r wefan hon byth yn ei wneud · /cy/privacy/
Cymraeg

Un cwci parti cyntaf, a osodir dim ond pan ddewiswch iaith; mae’r adran nesaf yn ei enwi. Dim cwcis trydydd parti, dim dadansoddeg, dim picseli mesur, dim olion bysedd digidol, dim hysbysebu, a dim ceisiadau at weinyddion neb arall: mae’r ffontiau, y delweddau a’r sgriptiau i gyd yn cael eu gweini o’r wefan hon. Nid oes baner gydsynio am nad oes angen cydsyniad ar gwci nad yw’n gwneud dim ond cario’r dewis a wnaethoch.

English

One cookie, first-party, set only when you choose a language; the next section names it. No third-party cookies, no analytics, no measurement pixels, no fingerprinting, no advertising, and no requests to anyone else’s servers: the fonts, the images and the scripts are all served from this site. There is no consent banner because a cookie that does nothing but carry the choice you made needs no consent.

“olion bysedd digidol” for browser fingerprinting is a coinage: does it read, or does it need a gloss? And the Welsh Government writes “baner cwcis”, unmutated, for the banner: should “baner gydsynio” follow that pattern?

2 Preifatrwydd · Yr hyn y mae eich porwr yn ei gadw i chi · /cy/privacy/
Cymraeg

Mae un cwci’n eistedd wrth eu hymyl, bl-lang, yn dal yr un ddwy lythyren. Fe’i gosodir pan bwyswch stamp yr iaith, ddarllen y ddalen Gymraeg neu ddod i mewn drwy /en, ac fe’i hanfonir at y wefan hon ac at neb arall. Wrth y drws ffrynt y mae ei waith: mae hwnnw’n ei ddarllen fel arwydd eich bod wedi dewis, ac yn peidio â chynnig yr iaith arall i chi; nid yw dim ar y dudalen yn ei ddarllen yn ôl. Dilëwch ef ac mae’r drws ffrynt yn mynd yn ôl at gynnig y ddalen Gymraeg i borwr sy’n gofyn am Gymraeg.

English

One cookie sits beside them, bl-lang, holding the same two letters. It is set when you press the language stamp, read the Welsh sheet or come in by /en, and it is sent to this site and to nobody else. Its work is at the front door, which reads it as a sign that you have chosen and stops offering you the other language; nothing on the page ever reads it back. Delete it and the front door goes back to offering the Welsh sheet to a browser that asks for Welsh.

“ei ddarllen yn ôl” for reading a value back out; “stamp yr iaith” for the language switch on the page; “y drws ffrynt” for the site’s front address; “dod i mewn drwy /en” for coming in by that address, and whether “ddarllen” stands mutated in the middle of the list with no “neu” of its own. Are these natural, and what would you say instead?

3 Coloffon · Dim byd yn gwylio · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Os pinnwch thema, neu ddarllen y ddalen yn Gymraeg, cedwir y dewis hwnnw mewn allwedd ar eich dyfais eich hun ac yn unman arall; gosodwch y thema’n ôl i awtomatig ac fe ddileir hyd yn oed hynny. Ysgrifennir y dewis iaith hefyd fel cwci, bl-lang: dwy lythyren, a osodir pan bwyswch stamp yr iaith, ddarllen y ddalen Gymraeg neu ddod i mewn drwy /en. Fe’i hanfonir at y wefan hon yn unig, fel bod y drws ffrynt yn eich gadael ar y ddalen a ddewisoch. Mae ymholiad yn mynd i westeiwr ein ffurflen ac i’n mewnflwch, ac fe’i defnyddir i ateb i chi, a dim mwy.

English

If you pin a theme, or read the sheet in Welsh, that choice is kept in a key on your own device and nowhere else; set the theme back to auto and even that is erased. The language choice is also written as a cookie, bl-lang: two letters, set when you press the language stamp, read the Welsh sheet or come in by /en. It is sent to this site alone, so the front door leaves you on the sheet you chose. An enquiry goes to our form host and our inbox, and is used to reply to you, nothing more.

The same three coinages as above, plus “gwesteiwr ein ffurflen” for “our form host”, and the pattern “pan bwyswch …, ddarllen … neu ddod …” (a finite verb, then verb-nouns after it). Does that construction stand under “pan” and “os”?

4 Coloffon · Y ddalen (the table at the end) · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Adeiladwyd

English

Built

A colophon table with one word per row: does “Adeiladwyd” stand alone for “Built”, or does it want “Adeiladwyd gan”?

5 Coloffon · Yr wynebau · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Rydym yn gosod y penawdau yn Newsreader, wyneb trwydded agored ag echelin optegol go iawn: mae’n mynd yn feinach wrth fynd yn fwy, a dyna pam mae italig y pennawd mawr yn cadw ei linellau main. EB Garamond yw’r prif destun. Nid oes trydydd wyneb. Mae’r anodiadau bach yn Garamond eto, mewn prif lythrennau wedi’u tracio: y capsiynau, marciau’r adrannau, y llinellau uwchben pob crefft. Mae’r ffigurau yn Newsreader gyda rhifolion tablaidd unionlin: cyfesurynnau, diwrnodau, punnoedd. Mae rhif yn sefyll ar uchder y prif lythrennau wrth ymyl ei label, a cholofn ohonynt yn cyd-fynd.

English

We set headlines in Newsreader, an open-licence face with a true optical axis: it gets finer as it gets bigger, which is why the hero’s italic keeps its hairlines. Body text is EB Garamond. There is no third face. The small annotations are Garamond again, in tracked capitals: captions, section marks, the kickers over each trade. The figures are Newsreader with lining tabular numerals: coordinates, days, pounds. A number stands at cap height beside its label, and a column of them lines up.

One register or two? This paragraph uses the printing trade’s words (wyneb, llinellau main, unionlin), where Y Termiadur gives “ffurfdeip” for typeface and knows no typographic sense of “unionlin” (lining figures). Which set should the sheet use throughout, and is “rhifolion” right for numerals?

6 Coloffon · Yr wynebau · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Rydym yn gweini’r ffontiau o’r wefan hon, nid o rwydwaith ffontiau. Nes iddynt gyrraedd, mae’r dudalen yn paentio yn Georgia gyda mesuriadau pob wyneb arni, wedi’u mesur arddull wrth arddull, fel nad oes dim yn symud pan fydd y teip go iawn yn glanio.

English

We serve the fonts from this site, not from a font network. Until they arrive, the page paints in Georgia with each face’s metrics applied, measured style by style, so nothing moves when the real type lands.

“gweini” for a website serving its fonts: the dictionaries know the noun “gweinydd” (server) but not this verb. Natural, or should it be “o’r wefan hon y daw’r ffontiau”?

7 Coloffon · Y cynllun · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Y Circus yw’r lluniad ar y dudalen flaen, ar ôl cynllun John Wood yr Hynaf o 1754. Mae’r dudalen yn ei dynnu’n fyw fel gwaith llinell fector: y cylch adeiladu yn gyntaf, yna’r echelinau, yna’r tri theras yn nhrefn eu codi. Gyda llygoden mae’n ateb confensiynau’r arolwg: croeslin a graticiwl, a rheolydd TAFL. sy’n codi’r cynllun i’r tafluniad milwrol y byddai lluniedydd o’r ddeunawfed ganrif yn ei adnabod. Os yw eich system yn ffafrio llai o symud, mae’r cynllun yno’n barod, yn gyflawn.

English

The drawing on the front page is the Circus, after John Wood the Elder’s plan of 1754. The page draws it live as vector linework: the construction circle first, then the axes, then the three terraces in the order they were built. With a mouse it answers the survey conventions: a crosshair with a graticule, and a PROJ. control that lifts the plan into the military projection an eighteenth-century draughtsman would recognise. If your system prefers reduced motion, the plan is simply there, complete.

“lluniedydd” for draughtsman (Y Termiadur gives “drafftsmon”), and “ar ôl cynllun John Wood” for a drawing made after his plan (modelled on it, not later than it). Both right?

8 Coloffon · Y drysau · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Mae’r ffurfiau byr wedi’u cofrestru hefyd. Cyrhaeddwch bath.ltd neu bath.ltd.uk ac fe’ch anfonir yma, lle mae’r pennawd yn agor fel y byrfodd ac yn dadblygu i’r enw llawn. Mae’r llythrennau coll yn dod yn ôl fel elfennau span plaen dros y rhai sy’n dilyn, fel nad yw mesuriadau fertigol y llinell byth yn symud. Gallwch ei wylio eto ar unrhyw dudalen: ychwanegwch ?nameplate=ltd at y cyfeiriad.

English

The short forms are registered too. Arrive at bath.ltd or bath.ltd.uk and you are sent here, where the masthead opens as the abbreviation and unfurls to the full name. The missing letters come back as plain inline spans over the ones that follow, so the line’s vertical metrics never move. You can watch it again on any page: add ?nameplate=ltd to the address.

“y pennawd” for the masthead (the name at the top of the page), when the same sheet uses “pennawd” for a headline two sections up; Y Termiadur gives “teitl”. And “fe’ch anfonir yma” for “you are sent here”.

9 Coloffon · Y wasg · /cy/colophon/
Cymraeg

Rydym yn adeiladu’r wefan yn statig gydag Astro ac yn ei gweini fel ffeiliau fflat: dim cronfa ddata, dim gweinydd rhaglenni. Mae’r arddulliau’n teithio y tu mewn i’r dudalen, felly mae’r ddalen flaen gyfan, gan gynnwys y cyfnodolyn, yn cyrraedd fel un ddogfen gywasgedig o ryw dri deg chwe chilobeit. Ni chaiff sgriptiau redeg oni bai eu bod yn cyfateb i olion bysedd a gymerwyd adeg adeiladu, ac mae’r wefan yn dweud wrth borwyr am ddefnyddio HTTPS yma am flwyddyn ar y tro. Mae gweithiwr gwasanaeth bach yn cadw’r copi diwethaf a ddarllenoch, fel bod y ddalen yn agor heb gysylltiad.

English

We build the site statically with Astro and serve it as flat files: no database, no application server. The styles travel inside the page, so the whole front sheet, journal included, arrives as one compressed document of about thirty-six kilobytes. Scripts run only if they match a fingerprint taken at build time, and the site tells browsers to use HTTPS here for a year at a time. A small service worker keeps the last copy you read, so the sheet opens without a connection.

“gweithiwr gwasanaeth” for a service worker (a small script a browser keeps so the site opens offline): no dictionary has the compound, and it can read as a person. Calque, the English term inside the Welsh, or a description of what it does?

10 Y dudalen flaen · yr amcangyfrif (§ 04) · /cy/
Cymraeg

Y symiau

English

The working

“Y symiau” heads the panel that shows both the working (the arithmetic) and the amounts. Does one word carry both? Rule on this together with item 13, “y symiau gyferbyn”.

11 Y dudalen flaen · yr amcangyfrif (§ 04) · /cy/
Cymraeg

Mudo cyfeiriadur a thenant

English

Directory & tenant migration

“tenant” in the Microsoft 365 / cloud sense: the dictionaries know only the housing and legal senses. Is the loan the word people use, or is there a Welsh one?

12 Y dudalen flaen · yr amcangyfrif (§ 04) · /cy/
Cymraeg

Pen cefn a model data

English

Back-end & data model

“pen cefn” for back end, mirroring TermCymru’s “pen blaen” for front end; TermCymru itself only has “ochr gefn” (back-end software). Which reads right beside “pen blaen”?

13 Y rhifyn print · the worked estimate · print the Welsh front page (⌘P on /cy/)
Cymraeg

Dyma’r amcangyfrif a weithiwyd gennych ar y dudalen, wedi’i argraffu fel yr oedd: {track}, {days} ar {rate} y diwrnod. Newidiwch rywbeth ac argraffwch eto; bydd y symiau gyferbyn yn dilyn.

English

This is the estimate you worked out on the page, printed as it stood: {track}, {days} at {rate} the day. Change anything and print again; the ledger opposite follows.

“y symiau gyferbyn” for “the ledger opposite” (a table of days and money on the facing page). See item 10.

14 Y rhifyn print · the worked example · print the Welsh front page (⌘P on /cy/)
Cymraeg

Ticiwch beth sy’n berthnasol; mae’n iawn bod yn fras. Mae’r amcangyfrif rhyngweithiol, gyda’i draciau a’i hanner diwrnodau, yn bath.limited.

English

Tick what applies; rough is fine. The interactive estimator, with its tracks and half-day adjustments, is at bath.limited.

“hanner diwrnodau” as the plural of the unit, where the site’s own singular is “hanner diwrnod”. Right plural?

15 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · the ground plan’s controls · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

GOSOD ALLAN

English

SET OUT

“Gosod allan” for setting out a pitch (marking its lines on the ground); Y Termiadur gives “marcio” for mark out. Which would a groundsman say?

16 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · the ground plan’s lettering · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

DIAG.

English

DIAG.

The drawing marks the diagonal “DIAG.” The Welsh noun is “croeslin”, so the abbreviation abbreviates nothing in Welsh. Keep the Latin-stem mark, or abbreviate the Welsh (CROESL.)?

17 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · a note on the drawing · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

AR FESURAU MWYAF RHEOL 1 · DIMENSIYNAU EI HAMREDIAD

English

DRAWN AT LAW 1’S MAXIMA · DIMENSIONED IN ITS RANGES

The English says ITS RANGES (plural); the Welsh has the singular “EI HAMREDIAD”. The plural “EI HAMREDIADAU” fits the space. Which reads right?

18 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · netball, the drawing’s zones · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

TRAEAN GÔL

English

GOAL THIRD

Netball’s goal third: nothing records a Welsh name. Does “TRAEAN GÔL” follow how the game is spoken of in Welsh (beside the settled “TRAEAN CANOL”)?

19 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · rugby union, the drawing’s zones · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

ARDAL GAIS

English

IN-GOAL

Rugby’s in-goal area: the lines are recorded (“ystlys gwsg”, “llinell gwsg”) but not the area. Does it build on “cais”, as here, or on “cwsg”?

20 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · pickleball, the drawing’s zones · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

PARTH DIM-FOLI

English

NON-VOLLEY ZONE

Pickleball’s non-volley zone: Y Termiadur has “foli” for volley and nothing for the game. “dim” or “di-” for the prohibition, hyphen or not?

21 Y ddalen llawr gwlad · cricket, the drawing’s zones · /cy/grassroots/
Cymraeg

Y SGWÂR

English

THE SQUARE

Cricket’s “the square” (the prepared central area, not the outfield): only the generic “sgwâr” is recorded. Is there a word cricketers use?

22 The theme control (put away for now; not shown on the site)
Cymraeg

Thema: yn dilyn eich system. Pwyswch am y thema olau.

English

Theme: matching your system. Activate for the light theme.

“Pwyswch am y thema olau” as a spoken control label: natural, or would the terminology’s “Gweithredwch” be the expected word?

23 llms.txt (a note for machines; the Welsh is written but not yet published)
Cymraeg

Cyhoeddir pob dalen fel Markdown hefyd, yn y ddwy iaith. Mae llms-full.txt yn cynnwys pob un ohonynt mewn un ddogfen.

English

Every sheet is published as Markdown too, in both languages. llms-full.txt is all of them in one document.

“cyhoeddir” for a file a build writes out automatically, rather than one a publisher issues. Right verb?

24 llms.txt (the Welsh is written but not yet published)
Cymraeg

y practis — y dull, y gwasanaethau, amcangyfrif sy’n gweithio ar y gyfradd go iawn, a’r gyfradd ei hun

English

the practice — approach, services, an estimator that works at the real rate, and the rate itself

“practis” for a consultancy’s practice: GPC records it for doctors and lawyers. Does it stretch to a consultancy, or is there a better word?

Six questions that cut across the sheet

  • “pennawd” On the colophon “pennawd” is used for a headline (Yr wynebau) and for the masthead, the name at the head of the page (Y drysau). Y Termiadur gives “teitl” for masthead. One ruling for both.

  • “ateb i chi” “to reply to you” is written “ateb i chi” in three places, and the contact form’s own note says “Dim ond i ateb i chi y defnyddiwn hyn.” Is “ateb i chi” the natural form, or can it read as “answer to you” (be accountable to)? Rule once for all four.

  • “os pinnwch thema, neu ddarllen…” Twice on the colophon and once on the privacy sheet a finite verb is followed by a verb-noun after “neu” (“os pinnwch … neu ddarllen”, “pan bwyswch … neu ddarllen”). One ruling covers all three.

  • The impersonal forms The sheets mix the formal impersonal (“cedwir”, “ysgrifennir”, “fe’i hanfonir”, “sut y gwneir”) with “rydym yn” where the English is active. Is that mix right for a sheet that calls itself Cymraeg Clir, or should one register carry the whole page?

  • The site’s own coinages “stamp yr iaith” (the language switch), “y drws ffrynt” (the site’s front address), “gwesteiwr ein ffurflen” (our form host), “olion bysedd digidol” (browser fingerprinting). None has a source. Say what you would say.

  • “y symiau” Used for the panel that shows the working and for “the ledger opposite” in the print edition. Rule on both at once (items 10 and 13).

Five corrections already made, to glance at

Changed on the dictionaries’ word. A glance is enough; say if any reads wrong.

  • porthiant, not ffrwd, for a feed TermCymru: “porthiant RSS”. Changed wherever a feed is named.
  • buddiant dilys for legitimate interest TermCymru (Law): the UK GDPR term. Replaced “buddiant cyfreithlon” on the privacy sheet.
  • “gosodwch ef yn ôl” for setting the ink back “inc” is masculine; the pronoun was “hi”.
  • “na rennir”, not “nac ni rennir” GPC: “nac” only before a vowel, and the particle mutates.
  • CYLCH, not Y CYLCH, on the hockey drawing The English label is the bare CIRCLE; the named term “cylch saethu” (shooting circle) would also fit.

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